"To expound on a point: it is inappropriate to suggest that students
should take responsibility for the conduct of their team-mates and
assert control -- as the article suggests. When students are in
a classroom they are equal, and thus as teammates see themselves
as equals. If Jack and Henry aren't doing their fare share why is
it up to Mary and [the reader of the article] to do something about
it?"
Tomorrow's Professor Msg.#451 FURTHER COMMENTS ON COPING WITH
HITCHHIKERS AND COUCH POTATOES ON TEAMS
Folks:
November 18, 2002 Posting #441 COPING WITH HITCHHIKERS AND COUCH
POTATOES ON TEAMS, generated some interesting responses. Below is
one such response, from Sean D. Hurley, Research Assistant Professor
in the Department of Neurobiology and Anatomy at the University
of Rochester. It is followed by a rebuttal by the posting author,
Barbara Oakley, Assistant Professor of Engineering, Oakland University,
Rochester MI, Both articles are reprinted with permission of the
authors.
Rick Reis
reis@stanford.edu
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FURTHER COMMENTS ON COPING WITH HITCHHIKERS AND COUCH POTATOES
ON TEAMS,
November 18, 2002
Rick,
A nicely written article which points out both why students generally
dislike "team learning" (at least the brightest ones tend
to) and why team learning, at least as it is commonly implemented,
is a fundamentally flawed idea.
Team learning is flawed because it foists on students all of the
responsibility without any control. In a classroom environment,
learning is ultimately a solitary activity, yet with a team paradigm
individual assessment is made in aggregate -- thus those students
who wish to be rewarded for the learning that they have accomplished
invariably end up doing more than their fare share.
Yet the article suggests that it is up to the students to protect
themselves from freeloaders, hitchhikers, and couch potatoes. However,
while students may be responsible for the actions, or lack of action,
of their comperes, they are almost never assigned the power, by
the professor, to insure that their teammates contribute.
Ultimately, many professors defend the practice of "teams"
by pointing to the "real world", ie the business world,
where teams are routinely implemented. However, what many fail to
appreciate is that teams in the business world often have a team
leader who has the power to punish those who are not performing
and reward those who do. I do not believe it is appropriate for
students to have that type of power over each other -- often classrooms
are competitive and students are often too aware that their grades
can make the difference in where they might end up in professional
school.
Thus, teams often work best, in a classroom setting, when students
have clear zones of control. If Jack, Henry, and Mary are responsible
for their own part of the final report, then it will be quite clear
to the professor who is doing the work and who isn't and those students
who work the hardest will be fairly rewarded.
To expound on a point: it is inappropriate to suggest that students
should take responsibility for the conduct of their team-mates and
assert control -- as the article suggests. When students are in
a classroom they are equal, and thus as teammates see themselves
as equals. If Jack and Henry aren't doing their fare share why is
it up to Mary and [the reader of the article] to do something about
it? They are supposed to be equals, and most students don't think
it is their place to criticize their peers. If anything this is
standard social behavior and I do not believe professors should
expect anything different.
Of course, many people in life are assigned jobs with great responsibilities
and little power. But in the "real world" they are paid
for it. Whereas in college, it is students (and their parents) who
are handing out the dole.
Best, as always, Sean
Sean D. Hurley,
PhD Research Assistant Professor Department of Neurobiology and
Anatomy
University of Rochester Medical Center
Sean_Hurley@urmc.rochester.edu
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RESPONSE BY BARBARA OAKLEY 01/13/03
I appreciate the opportunity Rick Reis has given me to respond
to Sean Hurley's letter. And I thank Dr. Hurley himself for providing
me with a range of issues that allow me to tell both why I wrote
the Hitchhiker essay, and why I believe the ability to use the techniques
described in the essay is so important.
But before I respond to Dr. Hurley's points, I'd like to establish
my background and experience in working with teams, because it's
relevant to the credibility of the conclusions I drew. I happened
into a professorship much later than the usual academician, having
spent over twenty years working at a variety of industry-related
positions. My early years (after waitressing and working as a cleaning
woman in high school) were spent in the U.S. Army, where I spent
several years as enlisted before entering the officer ranks and
subsequently attaining the rank of Regular Army Captain. From the
perspective of observing how teams work, this was a fascinating
time, because I learned many of the tricks that enlisted men and
women used to fool the more gullible officers, of which the university
system turned out many. Later, I worked as a radio operator at the
South Pole Station in Antarctica and also spent several seasons
on Russian trawlers working for the Soviets with American fishermen.
Ships and isolated Antarctic stations are wonderful 'controlled
experiment' situations for anyone wishing to study the mechanics
of how teams do and don't work optimally. In the business world,
I spent a number of years working in research and development as
an engineer in the optics industry, and in design/manufacturing
in the automotive industry. In his letter, Dr. Hurley points out
"Ultimately, many professors defend the practice of "teams"
by pointing to the "real world", ie the business world,
where teams are routinely implemented. However, what many fail to
appreciate is that teams in the business world often have a team
leader who has the power to punish those who are not performing
and reward those who do." Unfortunately, the reality in the
business world is that a team leader or supervisor is too busy with
their own work to be concerned with petty interpersonal issues-even
if those issues don't seem so petty to the person(s) concerned.
If you have to go complain to the boss every time someone takes
advantage of you in the workplace, you've got a problem. And, as
the Hitchhiker paper suggests, it is easy to fool a gullible team
leader into believing that a problematic team member is actually
the one least at fault. Team leaders are generally far from omniscient
father figures who come to the rescue when a problem arises-in fact,
they are sometimes part of the problem. As explained in the full
version of the Hitchhiker paper ("It Takes Two to Tango,"
Journal of Student Centered Learning, Volume 1, Issues 1, 2003,
pg 19-28), I have found that students working in industry are often
the most appreciative of the tools the Hitchhiker paper provides.
It is in industry, after all, that the easy life of being able to
switch classmates and professors at the end of the semester is not
an option. Quoting again from Dr. Hurley "while students
may be responsible for the actions, or lack of action, of their
comperes, they are almost never assigned the power, by the professor,
to insure (sic) that their teammates contribute." I might append:
ditto for workers out in industry. That's why it's important to
learn to take active control of one's interactions with one's colleagues,
whether in the academic or the professional world.
Dr. Hurley states: "I do not believe it is appropriate for
students to have that type of power over each other-often classrooms
are competitive and students are often too aware that their grades
can make the difference in where they might end up in professional
school." The implication here is that the academic environment
is more competitive and somehow more important than the environment
out in the "real world." The reality is exactly the opposite.
Speaking from experience, I can assure you that the corporate world,
the entrepreneurial world, and even the military world is at least
as competitive, and often far more so, than the typical academic
environment. And ultimately, making the final cut to executive rank
is far more important-and competitive-for a corporate worker than
the triviality of whether he or she earned a 3.8 instead of a 3.2
grade in Calculus I. In his letter, Dr. Hurley asserts: "When
students are in the classroom, they are equal, and thus as teammates
see themselves as equals." I've had enough experience with
humanity to know that everyone is not equal, inside or outside the
classroom (outside of the legal realm, equality rarely exists).
I have also seen precisely how such notions of equality can be used
for manipulative purposes by individuals with malign intent, as
described in the Hitchhiker essay. Dr. Hurley also states "In
the classroom environment, learning is ultimately a solitary activity."
Not in my classroom, and not in any of the many classrooms that
use cooperative learning techniques throughout the country. There
are many different learning styles. (See Rich Felder and Barbara
Soloman's excellent paper, "Learning Styles and Strategies,"
at http://www2.ncsu.edu/unity/lockers/users/f/felder/public/ILSdir/styles.htm)
Those individuals who ultimately receive doctorates are often reflective
learners who like to learn on a solitary basis, as opposed to active
learners, who enjoy bouncing ideas off each other. As the old bromide
goes-the A students end up becoming professors, while the B students
end up working for the C students. There are many different pathways
to learning-and to success.
About five years ago I heard a surprising comment during an interview
with the president of an optics company. He revealed that he never
liked to hire graduating engineering students to work on electronics
design in his company-instead, he retrained physics graduates. His
reason? Engineers at that time were used to learning, and working,
as a solitary activity. They had too many difficulties adjusting
their work habits upon leaving school to be able to function effectively
in teams. The patterns set in the classroom followed the students
out into the workplace.
In his letter, Dr. Hurley goes on to say: "[Students] are
supposed to be equals, and most students don't think it is their
place to criticize their peers." In reality, it is indeed uncomfortable
for many students to be assertive enough to stop others from taking
advantage of them. But that does not obviate the need for students
to learn this important life skill. As the Hitchhiker essay suggests,
without constructive criticism, hitchhikers and couch potatoes will
never be able to learn that their actions are detrimental to others.
Dr. Hurley states that: "It is inappropriate to suggest that
students should take responsibility for the conduct of their team-mates
and assert control. If Jack and Henry aren't doing their fare
[sic] share, why is it up to Mary and [the reader of the article]
to do something about it?" Of course it's up to Mary and the
reader of the article to do something about it! Who else is going
to? The professor? He or she wouldn't know there's a problem unless
Mary and the reader brought it to the professor's attention, which
already means that Mary and the reader are doing something about
it. And as the article pointed out, when Mary, Henry, and the reader
brought the problem to the professor's attention, it worsened the
situation. This is a realistic scenario, and one I have seen time
after time in my own team-related experiences. To expand on an important
final point, if it is inappropriate to suggest that students take
responsibility for the conduct of their team-mates, then in real-life
human terms, that means their team-mates can do anything and get
away with it. Setting an early pattern in university years of telling
a student it is inappropriate to take responsibility for their colleagues'
conduct means that later, out in industry, a former student would
be more prone to turning a blind eye to unproductive and even unethical
practices. After all, it would not be their responsibility. Is that
really what we want?
Once again, I thank Rick Reis for allowing me the forum to respond
to Dr. Hurley's letter. Although Dr. Hurley and I obviously have
substantial disagreements in the area of teamwork, we are very much
in agreement on the post-doctoral experience, about which he has
written an excellent previous posting (#264: Making Chances in the
Post-Doctoral Experience).
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